PPP lobbies Ralph Ramkarran to return as AFCites differ on his value PDF  | Print |
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol   
Saturday, 30 June 2012 22:19

ralphramkarranEven as the Peoples Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) engages in a flurry activity to possibly get long-serving executive member, Ralph Ramkarran to withdraw his resignation from the party, there are mixed views about whether he would be good for the Alliance For Change (AFC). 

Ramkarran, according to sources close to him, has decided to end his political career that dated back to more than 30 years when he followed in the foot-steps of his father Boysie Ramkarran. 

The former House Speaker dispatched his resignation to PPP General Secretary, Donald Ramotar on Saturday, one day after a heated meeting of the PPP’s Executive Committee. 

“At a meeting of the Executive Committee on Friday, June 29, 2012, disquiet was expressed about the confidentiality of discussions in my presence having regard to my recent article on corruption. However difficult it might be to link the two issues, the intensity of the discussions were such that further participation in the activities of the PPP would be a challenge,” said Ramkarran in a statement. 

Former President, Bharrat Jagdeo was not at that meeting but Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com) was told that two senior party members who are high-ranking functionaries at the Office of the President heaped criticism on Ramkarran.

Ramkarran three weeks ago publicly called for an end to rampant corruption that he said was eating away at the society. 

Since his resignation was made public, the PPP issued a terse statement, suggesting that it was making efforts to salvage the situation. “The PPP General Secretary's office this morning received a letter of resignation from the PPP by Mr. Ralph Ramkarran. Immediately, efforts were made to engage Mr. Ramkarran on his concerns and his decision.” 

Several hours after the resignation was made public, AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan said that while he would have preferred Ramkarran to remain in the PPP and battle it out on issues such as corruption and good governance. 

“It goes to show any element in that party now that is not seen to be a group-thinker will be excluded by coercion and pressure as has happened here. It a dark day for the PPP and by extension the politics of this country,” he added. 

The AFC Chairman said that although Ramkarran would be of “tremendous value” to his party in the areas of law, political and organisational experience, he was almost sure that the veteran politician would be quitting politics. 

Against the background of claims by Ramkarran’s critics that he has no constituency and he is a ‘champagne socialist,’ Ramjattan disagreed, saying that the civil lawyer not only possesses a high degree of integrity but he is well-respected in the business, professional and middle class circles. “I know a lot of people respect Ralph Ramkarran and it is a misrepresentation to say that he doesn’t have a constituency and that is why the PPP would beg him to come back in,” Ramjattan added. 

But Political Scientist, Freddie Kissoon, who is now associated with the AFC, disagrees with those who believe that Ramkarran would be an asset to any other political party. 

Kissoon reasoned that Ramkarran has been a PPP member for a considerable number of years during which he has not been as vocal as Moses Nagamootoo with whom he had had internal political differences. “If he joins the AFC, I think that is going to bring some problems for the AFC because there is going to be some fall-out.

“People are going to say to the AFC that you are taking a lot of people that have contributed to the destruction of Guyana. They can’t get their own way in the ruling party and now they come over to you. 

The Political Scientist was quizzed about his logic in light of the fact that Nagamoooto quit the PPP after several decades and joined the AFC shortly before last November’s general and regional elections. “Nagamootoo at the height of PPP power was criticizing them…So Nagamootoo did what was historically obligatory of him to stop the influx of depravity in his party,” he said. 

For his part, Ramkarran has said that his outspoken positions on many key issues such as corruption is nothing new. Since the publication of his article in the PPP-associated Mirror newspaper and extracts in a Stabroek News newspaper article, he has been busy fending of criticisms and questions about his whereabouts since the PPP has been power for the past 20 years. 

There have been growing concerns about corruption in the award of multi-million dollar contracts, the provision of shoddy work that results in repetitive works and nepotism in the provision of contracts and jobs.

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+31 #1 Michelle Singh 2012-06-30 23:38
Comrade Cheddi is turning in his grave. Greed..nothing but greed wwhile pensioners get 10,000.00 and Region 10 is punished. TIME FOR ACTION
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+36 #2 Overseasboys 2012-07-01 00:05
Donald Ramotur should be ashamed of him self, allowing a long standing member who had the same length of membership to take the fall when he 100% know what the man is saying is true. He is living in Egypt, in the Nile(denial). All the decent PPP should resign if they have one ounce of decency. He will find out at the pole what the public thinks about him.
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+23 #3 Lowes 1 2012-07-01 00:55
Mr. Ramkarran has done his bit for/to Guyana and should now resign from politics playing only an advisory role to anyone/party that would want to tap into his vast knowledge of what goes on in the corrupt PPP/civic.
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+10 #4 JINNAH RAHMAN 2012-07-01 02:22
ANOTHER SAD DAY FOR DEMOCRACY IN GUYANA - Ralph Ramkarran's resignation yesterday (30.06.12) is not surprising for many of us who reached great highest in the PPP and were finally pushed out.

I have been extremely publicly critical of my elder comrade and family friend, Ralph Ramkarran.

My very recent criticisms, on Demerarawaves and Stabroeknews on Mr.Ramkarran, was about his public statement about massive corruption, which was first published in the PPP Mirror and partially reproduced in the Stabroeknews.

The space would not allow me to go into any detail about the resignation of Ralph Ramkarran. My last 3 hours of very private discussion in July last year was very interesting and educational. It further revealed the inner workings of the PPP - as an ossified Stalinist outfit, not suitable for the 21st. century.

It would not be wise to say more about our private talk - especially at this time - because I think Mr. Ramkarran should re-consider his re-entry following the call by the PPP leadership not to leave the Party.

I totally disagree with Mr Ramjattan's (AFC Chairman)assert ion that Mr. Ramkarran will most surely "be quitting politics". He would like him to join the AFC. But why should he join the Alliance For Change and not the A Partnership for National Unity (APNU)? Mr. Ramjattan likes to play sectarian politics.

Ralph Ramkarran is much more serious a political activist than people think. Ralph would agree that he has not been the grass-roots person,as people like me, but he made a level of sacrifices for the ordinary people, as his father. he had a role to play. and he did to a large extent.

Mr.Ramkarran, the eldest son of a worker, Mr. Boysie Ramkarran, a veteran Trade Unionist and former President of the country's biggest Trade Union, the Agricultural and General Workers Union, (GAWU), was steeled in struggles.

Mr. Ralph Ramkarran has been the only person that I know of, who has been recalled by the PPP - just after he resigned. There are thousands of us - former activists of the PPP, who were vilified and condemned for daring to challenged the highly undemocratic operations of the PPP party.

Ralph must use this grand opportunity to make huge demands on the sterile leadership of the PPP for a complete change in Stalinist constitution which will allow open, unrestricted debates and discussions and the fullest involvement of the ordinary members.

He must demand the setting up of a Special Commission for the setting up of a National Unity Government involving all the two main parties in parliament, mass organisations and civic society.

Ralph Ramkarran cannot walk of away from 50 years of struggles and that of his indomitable father, Uncle Boysie. History will not forgive him. I hope he can prove all the doubters wrong.
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+23 #5 Alfred Ramsaran 2012-07-01 02:55
The party should take the out spoken comments of one of its long standing members as self criticism in good faith and endeavour to examine those who are culpable with a view to have leadership by example.
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+20 #6 AIB StUdent 2012-07-01 03:52
Let them lobby for you to return but stay true to your conviction Ralph. You did the noble thing. Many others inside the PPP should do what you did. I agree you are well respected and that means more than a constituency
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+19 #7 zaphur 2012-07-01 06:25
He lucky Jagdeo was not at that meeting, that was a near-miss.

Jagode would have said let him go ...lol we have better than him here, for Example: Robert Persaud, Luncheon etc. ...? really? lol

But seriously, what is Minister Benn doing handing road and bridge construction in this country? All these shady deals, and shabby, half-cooked wors that these contractors are doing and nobody is being held responsible?

Why can't the government bring in outside contractors to do our roads to International Standards? Bring in contractors from somewhere in the region because the state of affairs in GY when it comes to road construction leaves much to be desired. The work is so wishy, washy, half done, mediocre just like the PPP that they themselves don't even know when things are below standard.

Look at the Guyana Police Force, all is well and optimal right Rohee?
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+18 #8 Tom Kharran 2012-07-01 06:37
Mr Ramkarran.s resignation has come as a shock to many right thinking Guyanese..clearly he has had enough of the indecisions of the ruling party to act and weed out the endemic corruptions we read of too regulary. Mr President,you must act with haste as your reputation/legacy determined by the way you deal with these issues. Start now as tomorrow will be too late!
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+23 #9 Runnings 2012-07-01 06:42
The PPP is bad shape because of the massive corruption under Jagdeo. The largest projects in the history of this country stink with corruption.
OLPF.....awarded to Jagdeo's close friend
Amaila falls.....no tender
Marriott....secret deal, no tender
Airport project....secret deal
Fiber optic cable....designed and sold by PPP stalwart's son
And the list goes on.
The first person whose asset is seized and fined will be the begining of getting things right. Start the prosecutions now!!!
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+15 #10 vijay singh 2012-07-01 07:03
Jinnah, The PPP like to have him back to be a facade of decency while behind that facade the plunder continues. Why was he not critical of the ninconpoop economist, instead he said that every leader has his own style. Ralph realised that shouting against the wind is futile,
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+21 #11 CleveM 2012-07-01 07:13
If you had any doubts you should be convinced thar this PPP/C is not Dr. Cheddie's party. Driven by greed and plagued by corruption, a party that once championed the cause of the small man is now his #1 enemy. I do hope that the Guyanese people are paying attention and would make their displeasure and disgust of the "Parasite" known at the ballot boxes. People wake up - this in not the good doctor's party. He himself would not recognize nor vote for it.
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+4 #12 Ex-PPP Man 2012-07-01 07:38
Sour grapes, where was he over the last 20 years ? He was in the company of these same corrupt individuals, leading and voting with them in parliament, sitting with them at Freedom House , etc etc. His political career is over I think.
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+10 #13 money 2012-07-01 07:39
well well well , if the fox can't get the grapes what they normally say the grapes is scour ,but I don't think for eatgrapes where the hell was he when he was part of the gang that stand there and say nothing about corruption . ,
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+18 #14 Maagadag 2012-07-01 07:39
Let him retire and publish what he knows.
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+21 #15 Maagadag 2012-07-01 07:44
For once I agree with Freddie. I do not think Ralph should be encouraged to joining the AFC. Let him make his contribution as an independent citizen
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+10 #16 Mathilda 2012-07-01 09:06
I just want Mr. Ramkarran to remember what happened to Minister Sash Shaw and his family for his fight against corruption and wrong doings in the party. One by one the spilling the beans and that cult .
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+5 #17 Mathilda 2012-07-01 09:07
I just want Mr. Ramkarran to remember what happened to Minister Sash Shaw and his family for his fight against corruption and wrong doings in the party. One by one the spilling the beans on that cult .
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+10 #18 Jai Roopnauth 2012-07-01 09:43
Since when is Freddie Kissoon, a non-member of the AFC is an official spokes person of the AFC?
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+5 #19 NOSENSE 2012-07-01 10:19
Mr. Ramkarran is a man of principle, it matters not how long it took him to take a stand, but History will show the time and date he became a Man of filled with Courage, and to the naysayers, why don't u do something too. Decency will always prevail. Good cannot triumph over Evil...NEVA! Thank u Mr. Ramkarran.
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+6 #20 Ray 2012-07-01 10:51
Now, lets see.............First, there was Ramjattan, Then Nagamootoo was shown the door, now Ramkarran. Who's is next as the revolving door continues?
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+10 #21 gtson 2012-07-01 12:46
Just a next nail in the casket of the PPP,C
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+8 #22 Cassava joe 2012-07-01 12:53
With all the things Ramkarran had said in the open and behind close doors. He should be a shame of himself to be doing what he is doing now.

When Moses left the PPP, he was call the worst names ever in his life by PPP by insiders and Ramkarran new what Moses was talking about. Why would he want to leave that same group that castrated Moses on his departure. Why now? He still talking after the election.

Moses life was threatened by this same group because of his eating away at the PPP base after joining the AFC and his honest talk on corruption inside the PPP and what was taking place.

Khemraj leave Ramkarran to fall on his own knife, we don't don't need him in the rank and files of the A.F.C. The Party can give him some work to do and pay him but keep him away.

Our love for Moses and his safety is our biggest concern at the moment and for that matter all A.F.C members.

Let us work on building the Alliance, not braking the Alliance...
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+11 #23 D.Jones 2012-07-01 13:56
This is simply a case of the hens are coming home to the roost.As public confidence has started the slide down the slippery slope, there willbe no turning back for the Don.Unless he does something dramatic this is the begining of the end.They are living in coocooland if the PPP/C believes it can recover from this.All of Guyana has suffered for too long with this endemic corruption of public funds from NCIL to contracts. The country is going no where just try measuring our development with any of our closest neighbour and the answer is clear as day we are not moving. Time for a new political order start with the constitution. No political party should serve no more than two or three terms in office. It is time for every Guyanese regardless of race to put Guyana first and remove these vermins that is living off the fats of the population from office
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+9 #24 Phillsop 2012-07-01 16:02
If he was around these Kavakamites for SO long. I got to be real real bad that he is jumping ship.

The boss man just come to the top, but he don't know the ropes like that fellow and now there is more stealing and the opposition got their finger in in their @#$%.

Now everything is in the open and the people can now see that their have a Government of robbers.
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+10 #25 rajesh rohit parmanand 2012-07-01 16:40
Ralph will not be accepted to any party! My BEST advice to him is to sit it out on his laptop and write abt all the things he know and has heard. He has nothing to gain from the PPP he needsnothing form the PPP. I will tell you that he is making good money from his clientelle and most improtantly the ppp owned Guysuco. We will see the sacked CE for GTT made the CE for Guycuo. any bets ? Ralph please go in peace nad contemplate your years ahead. You didi not mention any coruption when BJ was at the helm, they would have kicked you out then like they did ramjattan. I would say you were a coward by your actions prior.
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+2 #26 Action 2012-07-01 17:32
"How fortunate for Governments that the people they administer don't think." -- Adolf Hitler

Corrupted politicians, corporate thieves and drug dealers are the same in terms of always being selfish and greedy. The citizens who support them are also the ones that are responsible for their bad behaviour and the terrible state of the country because they themselves are selfish and don't think.
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+2 #27 Prem 2012-07-01 20:45
Gimme a break, he now talking about corruption, Where was he these 20 years, enjoying the sweet of it!
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+1 #28 vijay singh 2012-07-01 21:20
A sick society must think about politics as a sick man must think much about digestion. The subject may be fatal cowardice for the one as for the other.. If either comes to regard it as the natural food of the mind, if either forgets that we think of such things only in order to be able to think of something else, then what was undertaken for the sake of health has become itself a deadly disease.
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-2 #29 Danny DeAbru 2012-07-02 00:17
Mr Editor! Is it you who give 'black face' the title 'political scientist'? Nagamootoo did not move over to stop the influf of depravity. He moved because he was not placed in the 'power force'.The late 'light-weight Kissoon' used to often say that 'Freddy was an educated fool'.Light-weight was um buddie.Ramkarran has his own agenda...it's like Guyana politics being one king size comic book.
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+1 #30 Phillsop 2012-07-02 08:22
Ali Babar and the thrives.

When crooks and robbers disagree -- wise men will know where to fined them.
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+2 #31 sidione sylvain 2012-07-02 09:15
This is also another insult to the Guyana Police Force,Ramkarran talk about corruption within the PPPC Government,Ched di Jagan daughter talk about corruption within the PPPC government and the Guyana Police Force is not charging people for corruption in this PPPC government,that is why the Minister of Home affairs treat you that way, no respect for the Guyana Police Force.
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+2 #32 ashley singh 2012-07-02 09:36
Ramkarran is Honorable. He had the audacity to say the Government is corrupt and he should be commended. No other member of the PPP has the b***s to do so. One man single- handedly destroyed Guyana and the PPP. RAMOTAR should be told in no uncertain terms that if he wants Ramkarran to return, the removal of all the Jagdeoites must be a precursor. He should not even th.ink of affiliating himself with the AFC
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-1 #33 FAIRPLAY 2012-07-02 14:04
It is all about love and commitment one has for his country, party and People.for his parent`s had worked for that party over 80 years plus,and to allowed these illerates young and old who`s is all about POWER and MONEY to caused founding members and their families to leave a party that they built it is a sad day for the party its self, I personaly feels Mr Ramkarran should stay with the Party and continue the fight from within,this is his opportunity to demand now all that he wanted to see done with immidate effect that the hacks sign a peace accord with him and support all his proposals for the benifits of the party and country for one to just decide to jump out off,a ship before it completely sink when he has the tools to stop the sinking. Mr Ramkarran you have the greatest opportunity in your hands now, don`t throw it away, all of us the supporters of ALL THE PARTIES IS WITH YOU, WE ASKED YOU TO DEMAND a complete FORENSIC AUDIT FOR THE PARTY AND THE ASSETS OF THOSE IN THE PARTY.
As for Feddie Kisson I say to the AFC do not let this man be our mouth piece, he is more a destoryer than a human being he will do more harm than good for the party, one has any respect for him,he is another Kit nasty mento,keep them far to safe gaurd the party.
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0 #34 dem a watch meh 2012-07-02 16:47
freddie kissoon is not even a member of the AFC. He has no say in AFC politics and how it is run as an organization. He mouths off from time to time but no one listens to his crap.
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+3 #35 Jim 2012-07-02 18:30
His decision was sensible, why endanger yourself when thieves are going to discuss their strategy and they view you as a potential sellout. Cut and run cause if you hear and it is spilled no one can save you. Ask Sash.
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