Speaker rejects gov't amendments to opposition inquiry motion PDF  | Print |
Written by Kwesi Isles   
Thursday, 17 January 2013 13:58

trotmanSpeaker of the National Assembly Raphael Trotman has rejected the government’s amendments to an opposition motion which calls for a Commission of Inquiry (COI) into past criminal violence, saying the submissions violate parliamentary regulations.

The motion in the name of Opposition Leader David Granger calls on the president to set up a COI to examine the 2004 to 2010 period. Attorney General Anil Nandlall last week submitted a number of amendments to the motion and at last Thursday’s sitting Trotman had announced that he had some concerns and needed time to study them.

The government wants the inquiry to cover the last 40 years so as to include periods of political unrest.

"The proposed amendments contain, in my considered opinion, matter that offends the Standing Orders. I refer in particular, to references to sitting and former Members of Parliament, and other former and current leaders and superior officers of political parties and disciplined forces, and their “linkages” to criminal gangs; these, in my considered opinion, offend Standing Orders 26 (b), (c) and (d),” Trotman ruled in a document seen by DemWaves on Thursday.

The cited orders state that a motion (b) shall not contain ironical, unbecoming or offensive expressions or words that would not be permitted in debate; (c) it shall not contain the names of persons unless they are strictly necessary to render the motion intelligible; and (d) it shall not refer to the conduct or character of persons except in their public capacity.”

“Apart from the fact that names of persons are inserted, and that some of them are not present to mount a defence of their characters, the amendments also make statements that appear to be “fact” and yet seek to have a Commission of Inquiry inquire into the very matters. I consider the amendments in their present form to have gone far beyond the “paal” of what is expected, and acceptable, as coming from a Member of Parliament of the National Assembly for debate in this august House,” the Speaker’s ruling states.

Trotman recommended changes to the amendments and stated that the AG has the option of adopting these or withdrawing the amendments in their entirety.

The proposed changes would see the removal of the names of individuals to be replaced with “known individuals” and “public officials.” 
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+14 #1 w.c.d.people 2013-01-17 14:17
Why don't we make this the last 150 years so we can look at everything. Or lets say the last 400 years so we can blame the Europeans for slavery and everything else.

Seriously, I see the last 10 years or any recent period of specific activities and a relevant 'scope of work' for such a commission. Even this needs some refining so it can give a COI some specific guidance rather than returning frequently for direction or having to make contradictory assumptions.

The scope has to be very practical and meaningful. 40 years is unreasonable. Different activities during the last 40 years, are of interest, and should be done individually because of the challenges related to the operations of a COI.

This seem to be really a game of politics rather than leadership. Come on leaders be leaders for a change in life and for your own legacy.
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-22 #2 cuffy 2013-01-17 14:29
As usual, the INCOMPETENT, BIASED so called 'speaker', rules in favour of his OBSTRUCTIONIST, BULLY buddies of the even MORE INCOMPETENT opposition cabal, aPOO & afc. These IDIOTS have reduced Parliament to nothing but a JOKE. Time to go to the polls and boot these USELESS opportunists out. The People's business need to MOVE forward.
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+17 #3 Big Al 2013-01-17 14:56
PeePeePee really think dem smart..they want the enquiry tocover 40 years....so as to hide the Roger Khan,drug fest , PPP led crime spree NAT AT ALL
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+12 #4 Dee 2013-01-17 14:59
The PPP had 20 years to call for inquiry into what happened before 1992. Now all of a sudden the current Opposition want inquiry then they want to go back to the 70s!! You see these people? Boy. The PNC de doing xyz so we PPP ok to do xyz PLUS abcd.
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+11 #5 GAIRY D 2013-01-17 15:04
Here we go again GOG/PPPC the longest rope has an end God knows the truth so no amount of spinning can thwart the truth. Wicked people!!!
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+12 #6 I Love Guyana 2013-01-17 15:34
I was surprised when I saw the amendments made, moreover by the nation's so-called attorney general. This shows you how shall minded the guy is.
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-12 #7 rueljohnson 2013-01-17 15:57
obviously the speaker wont allow organized PNC political crimes to be investigated such as PLAN X13
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+13 #8 Emile_Mervin 2013-01-17 16:27
There is need for an inquiry into the crime spree of 2002-2006 that included escaped prisoners, freedom fighters and Phantom Squad killers. How can drug smugglers operate the smuggling without being caught during the Jagdeo era? How did one smuggler become Guyana's de facto Law Enforcement czar?

If the PPP wants it can push for its own inquiry into whatever period it wants, but let the records show that when many clean PPPites urged Cheddi Jagan after the 1992 win to probe the PNCs past, Jagan responded that the demands of the nation required greater attention and that he was not interested in engaging in a witch-hunt.

Jagan dropped the ball, so if the criminally corrupt criminal elements of the PPP now want to do what Jagan did not do, they are free to do so. But this PPP regime is worse by miles than the PNC regime.
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-21 #9 dayclean 2013-01-17 17:51
More to come from TROTMAN. That's only the tip of the iceberg with regards to his brand of impartaility as the speaker of the national assembly. This man is impregnated with the most jaundiced sense of political judgement. From the time he rebuked the Parliamentary clerk, it was the signal of his unhappiness with the govt amendments to the opposition motion. They are so afraid of what would come out of that broadened motion which would never have be accepted by the ''oneseat''opposition.
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-14 #10 kbaksh 2013-01-17 19:02
It's either you allow the amendment by the otherside but must have the proposer agreement or not at all.
It is not for the Speaker to come up with it's own amendment.
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+5 #11 phillsop 2013-01-17 19:37
This minority government has more skeletons and X-files than Balanjay (eggplant)got seeds.

It will be a horror movie!!

Every effort will be made so as not to have them exposed.
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+8 #12 realist 2013-01-17 19:44
Quoting cuffy:
As usual, the INCOMPETENT, BIASED so called 'speaker', rules in favour of his OBSTRUCTIONIST, BULLY buddies of the even MORE INCOMPETENT opposition cabal, aPOO & afc. These IDIOTS have reduced Parliament to nothing but a JOKE. Time to go to the polls and boot these USELESS opportunists out. The People's business need to MOVE forward.

Why don't you ask the president to call snap polls then?Or maybe the victory is not assured.Guyanese are a lot smarter these days.
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-5 #13 Roberts in Manhattan, USA 2013-01-17 22:02
This Speaker is one dumb donkey that is unqualified for the job and dn't care about the people of Guyana.
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0 #14 Guyanababoo2 2013-01-17 23:11
Quoting cuffy:
As usual, the INCOMPETENT, BIASED so called 'speaker', rules in favour of his OBSTRUCTIONIST, BULLY buddies of the even MORE INCOMPETENT opposition cabal, aPOO & afc. These IDIOTS have reduced Parliament to nothing but a JOKE. Time to go to the polls and boot these USELESS opportunists out. The People's business need to MOVE forward.


I am in total agreement. Lets go back to the polls and get these losers out.
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-6 #15 Mark Samuels 2013-01-17 23:41
It took 90 million for the Linden COI, this one will take for 40 years 1 billion. WOW what a Government and Opposition. Guyanese need to get sense and stop these greedy politicians who are wasting our money to have power while our poor people are suffering.
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-5 #16 Bert 2013-01-18 00:05
Trotman need to go back to high school. This prick doesn't know anything about the laws of Guyana...
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-4 #17 Berry 2013-01-18 00:07
This Brick don't even know the roll of the High court. Wanna be speaker and don't know a thing.
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-6 #18 Inti 2013-01-18 01:30
I will say it again,

What did nagamootoo achieved by leaving the PPP? NOTHING. The AFC have him as a lap dog to get the Indians votes.

The opposition did nothing for the people of Guyana, since parliament begins. All they have done is boycott the PPP progress, who have served the people of Guyana.

Let's call an election and send these dummy back to the stone ages where they belongs, they cannot and will not allow Guyana to progress because they don't know what that means. Trotman is an embarrassment to the seat that he holds.
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-7 #19 dayclean 2013-01-18 05:41
Quoting rueljohnson:
obviously the speaker wont allow organized PNC political crimes to be investigated such as PLAN X13

Your one sentence says it all.
If you examine all the statements -'slow fiah, mo fiah',as one example- made by some opposition personnel, you would find that they have always tried to make the country ungovernable. That's their public declaration and main mission once they are not in power. Remember the wild man attempt to storm the presidential complex and its consequences. The blocking of the bridge in Linden and its consequences. Agricola mayhem, Lusignan and Bartica slaughter against innocent citizens, the no go area at Buxton except for certain opposition political figures.These poeple ARE NOT interested in Gyana's image and development. They are so consumed by trying to control the seat of power, they would stop at nothing to get there. Their mission would FAIL as the world has moved on and they are stuck in their old ways, bankrupt of ideas
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+7 #20 Davo 2013-01-18 07:10
It this a redefined role or job description for an AG?
In all my years in Guyana i have never seen one functioning as spin doctor, party spokesman and resident "know it all", always seeking the lime light and photo opportunity......more so since the sickness of Mr. Lunchon.
Now Mr. AG don't burden the process, you had over 20yrs (and still can call) your own COI. The blood of the innocent victims including Mr. Sash Sawh, the Lusignan and Bartica massacres, and the hundreds of other citizens, murdered, are crying out for justice.
Instead of continuing with your witch hunt, do you AG job, and implement a Truth and Reconcilliation Comittee, to examine, how/when/where "we lost the script and ran off the rails", since independence.
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-4 #21 louisa Jones 2013-01-18 09:39
Come on! Monkey see monkey do, i thought we had a Parliament not a zoo. Who in their right thinking would vote for these idiots?
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+7 #22 Earle Lambert 2013-01-18 13:13
it is for the Speaker to correct the ignorance that came as amendment.
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-8 #23 dayclean 2013-01-18 16:27
Quoting dayclean:
More to come from TROTMAN. That's only the tip of the iceberg with regards to his brand of impartaility as the speaker of the national assembly. This man is impregnated with the most jaundiced sense of political judgement. From the time he rebuked the Parliamentary clerk, it was the signal of his unhappiness with the govt amendments to the opposition motion. They are so afraid of what would come out of that broadened motion which would never have be accepted by the ''oneseat''opposition.

I am not bothered about the negative score. The most important thing is that my view was published and read. Thank you Demwaves.
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-2 #24 ashley singh 2013-01-19 08:07
When will this masquerade come to an end?
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+2 #25 ashley singh 2013-01-19 08:12
Quoting Roberts in Manhattan, USA:
This Speaker is one dumb donkey that is unqualified for the job and dn't care about the people of Guyana.

WWONG! WRONG! Even donkeys BRAY to communicate with other donkeys.
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-3 #26 Steven 2013-01-19 17:46
This speaker just favors these bullies in parliament. He is one bias prick that RUNNING GUYANA DOWN.
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-4 #27 Jacobs in Brooklyn, NYC 2013-01-19 20:04
This Trotman wouldn't know what to do if a stray dog farts in Parliament House. This man don't know anything but the oppositions made him speaker of the House.
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-3 #28 Barnwell Cotton 2013-01-19 22:28
This Parliment speaker is an idiot because it seems like he don't know a cat from a dog. This opposition made him a speaker what will wrong when this speaker runs Guyana.
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+2 #29 NITTI GRITTI 2013-01-20 08:33
CUFFY WAS THE NAME OF A FREEDOM FIGHTER, HOW DARE YOU USE THAT NAME IN SUPPORT OF A CRIMINAL AND REPRESSIVE REGIME?Quoting cuffy:
As usual, the INCOMPETENT, BIASED so called 'speaker', rules in favour of his OBSTRUCTIONIST, BULLY buddies of the even MORE INCOMPETENT opposition cabal, aPOO & afc. These IDIOTS have reduced Parliament to nothing but a JOKE. Time to go to the polls and boot these USELESS opportunists out. The People's business need to MOVE forward.
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+2 #30 Barnwell Cotton 2013-01-20 23:05
Quoting NITTI GRITTI:
CUFFY WAS THE NAME OF A FREEDOM FIGHTER, HOW DARE YOU USE THAT NAME IN SUPPORT OF A CRIMINAL AND REPRESSIVE REGIME?Quoting cuffy:
As usual, the INCOMPETENT, BIASED so called 'speaker', rules in favour of his OBSTRUCTIONIST, BULLY buddies of the even MORE INCOMPETENT opposition cabal, aPOO & afc. These IDIOTS have reduced Parliament to nothing but a JOKE. Time to go to the polls and boot these USELESS opportunists out. The People's business need to MOVE forward.


A REGEIM? Do u even know what that word means? Are you stupid? Or just Dumb!
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-3 #31 Jerry Burns 2013-01-21 10:41
Trotman was put there by the oppositions even when the whole country knew he was unqualified for the jod as a speaker. Gaging Rohee was unconstutional and stupid by him.
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