Police responsible for Linden killing; "shooting" to scare "hostile" crowd justified PDF  | Print |
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol   
Friday, 01 March 2013 13:34
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The Commission of Inquiry Report is now in the hands of President Donald Ramotar. He is yet to officially make it public.

A Commission of Inquiry has found that Guyanese police were responsible for the shooting death of three persons and although the discharge of rounds was “somewhat reckless,” the action was “justified” because the crowd was “hostile.”


Survivors of the deceased, a number of those injured and those whose property was lost or damaged have been compensated as a favour rather than a legal obligation. The state-owned National Industrial Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL) was not awarded compensation for the burning down of the Linmine building because the commission said the government could not compensate itself.

Agitation had reached its peak on that fateful day as residents to reject a hike in electricity rates due to the now shelved plan to reduce government’s subsidy that is paid to the bauxite company, BOSAI Minerals, to produce current for the town.

The five-member commission states in its report that “we believe that the police were responsible for the shooting to death of the three persons as well as the injuries caused to several other persons at Linden on July 18, 2012, as there is no evidence that anyone else had a firearm which was discharged.”

Government has not officially released the document which was Thursday presented by Commission Chairman, Justice Lensley Wolfe to President Donald Ramotar who had commissioned the probe.

While the commissioners found that Assistant Superintendent of Police Todd was “somewhat reckless” in discharging four rounds of ammunition in the direction of the Mackenzie-Wismar Bridge on and near where there were hundreds of persons, they state in their report that the police action was warranted.

“Nonetheless the discharge of ammunition itself by the police in the circumstances described by ASP Todd was justified having regard to the fact that the police were confronted by a very hostile crowd and there was no clear intention on the part of the police to kill or cause injury to anyone,” states the report.

The commission concluded that the police’s “apparent intention was to scare the protestors into removing from the Bridge.”

The Commission of Inquiry blamed organisers and politicians for the escalation of tension on that fateful day by failing to advise the protesters to obey police orders by a loudhailer and a banner to remove from the bridge. Those named are Region 10 Chairman, Sharma Solomon and other politicians- Aubrey Norton, Vanessa Kissoon and Desmond Trotman. “What transpired on the Bridge on July 18, 2012 could have been avoided if some of the influential Community persons had intervened and advised the protestors to display due respect for the law.”

According to the document, the shooting of Buckshot #00 pellets at persons in the crowd, however, is “another matter and not surprisingly was not owned by anyone. The use of such lethal force was not justified in the circumstances.”

In the body of the report, the Commission said that while there was no direct evidence to unreservedly conclude that the three- Ron Somerset, Allan Lewis and Shemroy Bouyea- were fatally shot by the police detachment on the bridge. At the same time, the commissioners said there was no direct evidence that anyone other than the police was armed with firearms on the bridge on July 18.

With respect to the use of Buckshot #00 pellets the commissioners said that although police had denied using that type of ammunition for the past seven to 10 years, questions could be raised whether there were one, two or three persons who had had that type of ammo in their possession. The probe team of legal luminaries noted that the police records appeared unreliable and irregular. “Examination of the Arms Book in which the type of weapon and ammunition assigned to persons are entered does not disclose any such ammunition being issued. However the Commission is of this view that the entries in the book cannot be relied on as there were numerous irregularities evident therein,” according to their report.

The Commissioners reported that there was no evidence given at the hearings to support the assertion that Home Affairs Minister, Clement Rohee had given instructions to the Guyana Police Force in relation to the incident on July 18 other than testimony from the Minister that he gave a general direction on July 17th 2012 to the Commissioner that he should take all lawful steps to maintain law and order in Linden.

The Commissioners also recommended that the Guyana Police Force urgently implements the “Human Rights Standards and Practice for the Police” as developed by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, New York and Geneva, 2004. “This should form an integral part of the recruit training programme, and for all ranks and officers on-going carousel courses. If the police abide the United Nation’s standards, Guyana Police Force will be transformed into a modern, efficient and professional organization, the envy of all civilized societies.”

The Commission further recommended a management audit of the Guyana Police Force by local, regional and Commonwealth experts in light of inaccurate and unreliable record keeping as it relates to deployment of personnel, uplifting of arms and ammunition, inventory of ammunition belonging to firearms dealers, etc. “It was with some difficulty that we were able to have particular records synchronised and reconciled. This weakness has to be addressed as it can affect discipline, operations, accountability, etc,” states the report.

The commissioners believed that there was too much centralization of decision-making which could potentially affect the efficiency of ground commanders. The police force was flayed for not having high-ranking officers on the ground to make assessments and give direction.

The militaristic tactics by the police force, according to the Commission, should be left to the defence force.

COMPENSATION:

3 (d) Make recommendations for compensation where necessary for injury, loss or damage as a consequence of the events of July 18, 2012.

•           As we see it, this term is quite wide. It enables us to recommend the payment of compensation, irrespective of whether or not we find that the police were in any way culpable for their actions on July 18. We can make recommendations for the payment of compensation by the State where we find it is necessary to do so. However, any payment of compensation recommended has to be ex-gratia (as a favour rather from legal obligation).

•           As a result of the incident on the Mackenzie-Wismar Bridge on the afternoon of July 18, 2012 several persons were injured and three persons were shot and died as a result of gunshot injuries. In addition, several motor vehicles, machinery and buildings were set on fire by the persons who were protesting the proposed hike in the electricity rate in the town of Linden. The three persons who died as a result of gunshot wounds were Shemroy Bouyea, Allan Lewis and Ron Somerset.

•           In making our recommendations we considered all the circumstances in which persons suffered loss.

DECEASED PERSONS

Shemroy Bouyea

•           He was 24 years old. At the time of his death he was employed as a handyman by one Ramesh at his snackette in the Market at Mackenzie. He assisted in supporting his two brothers who were unable to work because of their mental condition and they would therefore lose that support. He himself appears not to have been in particularly good health. According to Gordon Callender, he did odd jobs. His mother is a security guard who also assisted in supporting the family. She earns $30,000 per month. It follows, therefore, that Shemroy was not the only person providing financial support of his family.

•           We do not believe that he earned as much as ten thousand dollars per week. Shemroy was a relatively young person (24 years). Because of the peculiar family circumstances we feel that a sum of three million dollars ($3,000,000) should be awarded to his estate. This amount must be held in escrow and is to be paid only on the presentation of Probate or Letters of Administration.

Allan Lewis

•           He was 46 years old. At the time of his death he was self employed doing various jobs, including carpentry, masonry and painting. He was however not employed at all times. He left to mourn two young children ages 19 and 21 years respectively, one of whom is attending the University of Guyana majoring in mechanical engineering and has another three years to finish that course.

•           Allan supported both of his children who are now left without any substantial support. His mother is a pensioner. We do not believe that the son, Rodwell, who attends the University of Guyana, received a monthly support of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) from his father who only worked periodically. Taking all these circumstances into consideration, we feel that his estate should be awarded the sum of three million dollars ($3,000,000) which must be held in escrow and be paid only on the presentation of Letters of Administration or Probate.

Ron Somerset

•           He was 18 years old at the time of his death and was attending the Technical Institute at Linden. His mother, Margaret, who was a Vendor in the interior but now unemployed and lives in Suriname, testified that Ron worked at an Electronic Shop at Linden which is owned by her son-in-law and assisted in supporting her and her two grandchildren. She was a most unimpressive witness and it is left to wonder whether Ron in fact assisted to support the family, bearing in mind that she received a monthly support of US$250 from two of her children who live overseas. We do not believe that Ron was employed at the time of his death.

•           In this circumstance we award the sum of only one million dollars ($2,000,000) for loss of life. This sum also must be held in escrow and only be paid on the presentation of Letters of Administration or Probate.

Injured Persons

•           A large number of persons suffered gunshot injuries, some of whom were part of the protest, which we took into consideration in making our recommendations. These injured persons were either on the Mackenzie-Wismar bridge or in the vicinity of the bridge, and the possibility exists that they were injured by pellets which were discharged from firearms which the Police used, particularly ASP Todd who said he fired towards the ground and there was the possibility that persons in the area would have been shot.

•           He said that he was fully aware when he did the ricochet firing it was at the crowd. It would be down and then ricochet towards the crowd. He said this twice. He took shot guns from Sergeant Junor and PC Parker and discharged four cartridges in the direction of the bridge where the crowd was.

•           We have dealt with each case separately and have recommended amounts which we felt were reasonable.

•           Sheila Austin

•           She carried on a small shop in front of her house and was not part of the protest. She was in search of her nephew when she was shot on her right leg and right hand. Her income could not have been much. She must have lost some income for a few days and suffered some measure of pain.

•           The amount awarded to her is fifty thousand dollars ($50,000).

•           Vladimir Glasgow

•           He received certain minor injuries to his left arm and left leg, and was injured when he was recording on his video camera the events that were taking place on July 18 in the vicinity of the bridge. He was not seen by a doctor.

•           We do not feel that he was in any way incapacitated and lost any income. An award of twenty thousand dollars ($20,000) is made to him as he must have suffered some measure of pain as a result of the injuries received.

•           Aliesha Barker

•           She was not part of the protest but had gone in search of her son. She suffered injuries to both legs. A pellet was removed from her left leg. This was done at a hospital in Berbice. She incurred certain medical and travelling expenses.

•           We feel that two hundred and eighty thousand dollars ($280,000) should be paid to her as most of the expenses incurred related to her medical treatment. She was unemployed at the time.

•           Reuben Bowen

•           He was shot in the left leg and was a vendor in the interior. Even though the Surgeon, Dr. Joseph, who examined him quite recently, was of the opinion that Reuben would be unable to work for another year, we are of the opinion, having observed him, that he is quite capable of doing some sort of work. He should not fold his hands and do nothing. He was one of the several persons who inflated their loss and was part of the protest.

•           Bearing in mind that he was part of the protest and is capable of doing some sort of work, we award him the sum of three hundred and ninety thousand dollars ($390,000) part of which is for travelling expenses, and pain and suffering.

•           Jemeke Brummell

•           He works at a car wash and had suffered injuries to his right leg. He was in the vicinity of the bridge and it would appear that he was part of the protest. He was another person who had exaggerated his loss of earnings. As a worker at a car wash he could not have been earning as much as $15,000 per week.

•           We feel that an award of one hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) is appropriate which is for loss of earnings, and travelling expenses incurred.

vi. Janice Burgan

•           She was part of the protest and had assisted in placing debris on the bridge. She received injuries to her left upper back. She was, and still is, a seamstress and is capable of continuing her work. It would seem that she attempted to mislead the Commission as to her earnings as at one time she said her earnings were $20,000 per month but later said it was $17,000 per week. We were not impressed by her evidence as it relates to her earnings.

•           We feel that a total sum of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($150,000) should be paid to her.

•           Ulric Cameron

•           He works at a tyre shop on the Mackenzie side of the river and was on his way home on the Wismar side of the river. He found that the bridge was blocked by protestors. He remained standing in the area of a tent which was near to the Linmine Secretariat when he was shot. He received injuries to the chest (both sides) and on the left side of his back.

•           He was admitted to Mackenzie Hospital where he spent several days after which he was transferred to the Georgetown Public Hospital where he remained until 3rd August 2012. Two pellets were extracted from his chest but two remained there. He did not incur any travelling expenses save and except $3,000 to return from Georgetown Public Hospital to his home. He did incur certain medical and other expenses. He did not work for four months.

•           We feel that an amount of four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000) is reasonable. He also attempted to mislead us as to his earnings. However his injuries seem serious.

•           Mortimer Cornel

•           He is self employed and operated a car wash and does some farming. He lives on the Mackenzie side of the bridge. On July 18, 2012 he was crossing the bridge from the Wismar side when he was shot and received injuries to his left arm, left wrist, abdomen and left leg. He did not go to the hospital that day as the Police had arrested him on suspicion of arson. On his release he went to Mackenzie Hospital where he was examined by Dr. Riyasat. He no longer carries on the car wash, which has been rented out.

•           This witness impressed us as a truthful witness. He said his total loss including loss of earnings is $155,000. There should be an award of two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) in his favour.

•           Michael Roberts

•           He is a miner and on July 18 he was waiting on his wife who works as a Cleaner at the Wismar Magistrate’s Court. He was under a tent near the Linmine Secretariat when he was shot on his mouth. He lost four (4) teeth as a result. He was admitted to the Mackenzie Hospital where he spent several days. He has been unable to work since. He cannot eat solid food. When he was in the hospital, he had to be fed through a straw. Even now he finds it extremely difficult to eat solid food and would require dentures as he has lost teeth from both the upper and lower jaws.

•           His case is a very sad one as he would be unable to continue mining. He has lost 20 pounds since July 18. In the circumstances, we recommend an award of one million five hundred thousand dollars ($1,500,000).

•           Yolanda Hinds

•           She is a ward maid at the Mackenzie Hospital and was on her way to work when she was shot on the right leg. She went to the hospital the following day and was treated and sent home. She remained at home for 28 days and received her salary for that period. However she lost her gratuity for three (3) months.

•           Her injury, not being of a serious nature, an award of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) is made in her favour.

•           Dexter Scotland

•           He is a shop owner. He was shot in his left nostril and spent twenty (20) days in hospital. He was standing on the eastern side of the bridge among a crowd of people when he was shot.

•           A CT Scan revealed that there are two small pellets in the floor of the nasal spectrum. He cannot eat properly nor open his mouth to laugh. He feels cramps in his face at regular intervals.

•           An award of three hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($350,000) is appropriate.

•           Hector Solomon

•           He is a Porter and part time DJ. He had assisted to place the music set which was used for the meeting on the bridge, after which he was standing nearby. When the Police discharged their firearms he started to run and was shot on his left upper chest. He was admitted to the Mackenzie Hospital where he spent a few days, after which he went to Woodlands Hospital in Georgetown where a bullet was extracted from his chest/left shoulder.

•           He said he has been unable to work since, which we do not believe. We were not convinced about his evidence. This witness had also made an attempt to mislead us. He wants us to believe that he earns as much as $24,000 per week as a Porter. This cannot be true. His medical and other expenses have not been proved as his father who paid same is overseas and did not testify before us.

•           We are satisfied that he did receive injury to the chest and must have suffered some measure of pain. The award in his favour was one hundred and twenty thousand dollars ($120,000).

•           Hugh Stephens

•           He is a building contractor and had chaired the meeting on the bridge after which, he was returning to the Wismar side of the bridge where he lives when he heard gun shots. He felt “a sting” across his right eye and could not see, so he went home. Subsequently, he had an X-ray done which revealed that there was a metal pellet in the right eye and that he was blind. Dr. Quaicoe who had examined him on October 6, 2012 recommended that he needs to have an operation overseas in order to correct the problem with his right eye.

•           Even though he did not return to give evidence as to his loss of earnings and medical expenses so far incurred, we must do our best to award him a sum which seems reasonable bearing in mind that he is presently blind in the right eye and has to seek medical attention abroad. He must have lost some income as he was a building contractor. It must be noted that he ought not to have chaired the meeting as no permission had been granted for the meeting to be held on the bridge.

•           Accordingly, we award him a sum of one million five hundred thousand dollars ($1,500,000).

Loss of Property

•           Payments under this Head also have to be ex-gratia.

Linmine Secretariat Building and its contents

•           From the evidence, it can be concluded that those were set on fire by the protestors. There is evidence that the protestors were in the compound of the Secretariat when fire was seen coming from the building. There is also the certificate from the fire department which revealed that the building was maliciously set on fire. In addition, there is evidence that the protestors had threatened to burn down the town.

•           The difficulty however is whether or not we can make a recommendation for the payment of compensation under this Head. The Secretariat is the property of the National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL) which, according to Mr. Winston Brassington, the Executive Director, is fully owned by the Government of Guyana, the only shareholder.

•           This Government entity was established during the regime of President Desmond Hoyte some years ago (1990). We cannot see how we can make a recommendation for the Government of Guyana to pay itself. This would be absurd. Accordingly the payment of compensation is not recommended.

Gordon Callender

•           He was one of the organizers of the protest. After the meeting on the bridge had ended, he remained on the bridge. Whilst there, according to him, the police started to discharge their guns. He started to run leaving a camera and a computer on the bridge. He never got them back. We are not convinced that he lost anything and are therefore unable to award him anything.

PPP/C Building and its contents

•           Compton Fraser, organizer of the PPP/C building which was clearly set on fire by the protestors stated that he visited the building on the morning of July 19. He saw several items in it damaged. A list of the items damaged and the amount it would cost to put the building back in order was prepared by a building contractor and verified by Fraser. It revealed that the cost of replacing the damaged items and to repair the building was two million five hundred and seven thousand dollars ($2,507,000). This amount cannot be awarded. We award a sum of four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000).

Loss of logs by Mariabo Investments Inc.

•           It would appear that the logs were removed by the protestors from a trailer in order to block the bridge. The amount claimed is US$4,305 which is approximately G$861,000.

•           The award under this Head is two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) as it appears to us that the amount of the loss was grossly exaggerated.

Destruction of lorry owned by Narindra Latchman

•           He lost a lorry, an excavator, a pressure pump and a quantity of tools which were set on fire by the protestors. These were in the area of the Guyana Revenue Authority (GRA) building which is North East of the bridge. The total cost of the lorry etc given by Latchman is $14,200,000.

•           The amount awarded to him is three million dollars ($3,000,000) as these items were not new ones and the lorry and the excavator should have been insured.

Ramchand Jewan Mangra

•           He had assisted the Police on the morning of July 19th 2012 to cut the logs, which were blocking the bridge, in order for them to be removed from the bridge.

•           Subsequently, his plucking station was vandalized and everything in it was removed from its site. Even the shed of the building was removed. He said his total loss was one million three hundred and sixty thousand dollars ($1,360,000).

•           Having examined Mangra’s evidence, it seems rather strange that all the equipment in the building and the zinc sheets which were on the building were removed. We are convinced that Mangra did not testify truthfully as to his actual loss. We feel that an award of two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) is appropriate as he must have suffered some loss.

Carlton Mohan

•           His lorry and a trailer, on which the logs of MARIABO Investment inc. were carried, were completely destroyed as a result of being set on fire by the protestors. He placed a value of eight million dollars ($8,000,000) on the lorry and trailer. We award him two million dollars ($2,000,000) as the vehicles should have been insured and they were not new.

David Shemroy Vigilance

•           He is a beverage vendor and was in the vicinity of the bridge. He said he was beaten by the Police, who removed his gold chain from his neck and in a struggle with the Police he lost two gold rings. He also discovered that the sum of $300,000, which was in a bag which he had, was missing.

•           He did not impress us as a witness of truth although it is possible that he may have lost his gold chain and been beaten by the Police. We cannot award him more than forty thousand dollars ($40,000).

Vishnu Singh

•           He was the owner of a fuel tanker which was set on fire by the protestors when the driver was attempting to cross from the Wismar side of the bridge. He had imported the motor vehicle from the United Kingdom some years ago at a cost of nine million two hundred thousand dollars ($9,200,000).

•           His award is two million five hundred thousand dollars ($2,500,000) as he ought to have insured his motor vehicle to cover any loss.

Clyde Adams

•           He had loaned his music set and other accessories to Vanessa Kissoon, a member of the Guyana Parliament for the purpose of the protest on July 18. This set was placed on the bridge by Hector Solomon (jnr.) and others for the purpose of the meeting which was held on the bridge.

•           His suggestion was that these were thrown into the Demerara River by the Police. He did not actually see the Police do this. His total claim was $810,000 which we feel has been inflated.

•           Seeing that the set was used for an unlawful purpose, we would award him a sum of only fifty thousand dollars ($50,000).

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+9 #1 caban 2013-03-01 14:13
We all knew that the police killed those people and lied about it and the GOG was saying the the ammo used were never issue by the force, they will never be trusted by most Guyanese
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-11 #2 realist 2013-03-01 14:16
how can u reward these criminals/hooligans/useless ppl for their atrocious behaiour??

anywhos, they r drug addicts so that money will done on drugs and booze and next 3 months they gon be worse than them deh now

lmfao
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+1 #3 realist 2013-03-01 14:17
dem rass gon protest more to get freemoney dat i work honestly for!!!
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+7 #4 GT007 2013-03-01 14:18
"LIFE" LOSS AT LINDEN valued at 15,000.00 US Dollars... there should be a commission of inquiry to the commission of inquiry (shame shame shame)
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-12 #5 realist 2013-03-01 14:18
at least couple of dem dead now... dat is somewhat satisfying to the mind
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+5 #6 PETER SAM 2013-03-01 14:19
My observation: Regardless how u look at it, one thing comes to light, the Indian was given more money, not because of his race but because at the end of the day African people in Guyana hardly have anything to lose but their lives.

The Indian man lost his investment, a thing very few Black people in Gt have, so they lost the only thing they have, their lives. Our leaders, the Afo Guyanese leaders have once again led their people down another dead end road to fight a lost cause.

Analyse this whole debacle, did u guys expect other black men from third world countries, whose police force would have done the same thing to come to any better judgement?

I expected this outcome. Look at what transpires in Europe, Spain, Greece, u do not see white police shooting their own people no matter what.

There is a documentary about the Israeli police and defence force moving Israeli settlers from the occupied territory, all must watch. The compassionate way in which they treated their fellow Jew was touching.

By contrast it just shows how barbaric African people have become when power and guns r placed in their hands.

My late uncle, who left Guyana just after independence told me one thing after he saw the new power hungry black people in the PNC. He said he saw there and then the cruelty of his own people who replaced the British rulers.

They lost, I believe threw away, their compassion for their fellow men, if u were a PPP or a UF u lost ur job or worse.

I am sorry for the loss of life. I hope my African brothers and sisters learn that the fight is not in the streets, it is in the pocket, it is in the investments, in the savings, in ur support for ur communities, stop wearing ur wealth on ur skins, stop the partying, yall are a heard ears people.
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+5 #7 Pee Pee Pee / Crooks. 2013-03-01 14:21
this COI was a total waste of time,money and resources
the report has many contradictions
the only ones benefitting from this circus are the commissioners who have enriched themselves with enormous salaries and perks and benefits
how can they conclude that the police were responsible for the 3 deaths when in their own words " NO DIRECT EVIDENCE TO UNRESERVEDLY CONCLUDE "
what about the ballistic report from the UK expert
it is widely believed that individual/s were planted on that bridge and nobody would be surprised if it was not pee pee pee phantoms and operatives
who shot and killed the 3 persons to create mayhem
or course somebody have to get and tek blame so the scapegoat is the police
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+3 #8 George Ramadhin 2013-03-01 14:40
Nigel Hughes, a lawyer who allegedly removed a camera from a murder scene in Buxton several years ago, was one of the key proponents for this COI. He even took a "pledge" to defend the Lindeners who were killed and brought in his own forensic pathologist under the guise that it was a request from the AFC. Would be nice to see a picture of this "fighter" receiving the Report.

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"the Commission said that while there was no direct evidence to unreservedly conclude that the three- Ron Somerset, Allan Lewis and Shemroy Bouyea- were fatally shot by the police ............"

If this is so then how is the police responsible for the killings??? Additionally there was no evidence that Buckshot #00 pellets were used by the police. Linking poor record keeping to the likely use of these pellets by police is circumstantial.

They should all be jailed.

Everything else in this Report is cosmetic. Based on the information gathered by the learned Commissioners, the recommendations given are pretty much "run of the mill".
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+4 #9 Michael Williams 2013-03-01 15:18
Human Life cheap in Guyana...It is my firm view that more should of being awarded to those who lost their lives...and what is this?... "In this circumstance we award the sum of only one million dollars ($2,000,000) for loss of life. This sum also must be held in escrow and only be paid on the presentation of Letters of Administration or Probate"...I am certain the commissioners were paid more than what they awarded those who lost their lives
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0 #10 crazy GTe 2013-03-01 16:06
This happen when u have people don't have respect for law , that included the RAMBO POLITICIANS , POLICE AND PROTESTERS, PEOPLE HAVE A CONSTITUTNAL RIGHTS TO MARCH AND PROTEST ,BUT The ONE DON'T WANT TO TAKE PART RIGHTS SHOULS PROTECTED
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+3 #11 Suresh 2013-03-01 16:22
Well let us see what Ramgoat and the goat nah bite meh man gonna do now. This report crucify them to hell and high heavens. Linden, you have made Guyana proud! From your losses, my sympathies forever, we get 3 men and 2 women to tell this dunce govt what we know all the time. The police force is inept and Rohee runing it since 2006, he must go now too!
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+3 #12 chris adams 2013-03-01 16:32
Where and how these commissioners come up with some of these figures seems to be quite mind boggling. I own a hauler which cost me 7,000,000. When I registered for insurance I was told if any thing goes wrong I will only be compensated 1,500,000. Insurance in guyana is a LEGAL fraud. That said, I can also attest to a wash bay attendant earning 15,000 a week. Logs also in guyana are extremely valuable a load of four logs can sometime cost up to 1,500,000. I'm not impressed by the work done by the commission, nevertheless their conscience will be their guide. It is my belief that the persons who lostt their lives and vehicular properties should have been rewarded more.
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-2 #13 hngry10inches 2013-03-01 16:42
SO NOW, "SHOOTING TO SCARE" MEANS TO SHOOT INTO THE CROWD!!!!!

GUYANESE YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

WHAT TRAVESTY!

RIGHTS OF PEOPLE TRAMPLED BY A PSEUDO_LEGAL PROCESS WHICH TURNED JUSTICE UPON HER HEAD.

NOW ALL CAN SEE HER FRAILTY AND HER BLOOMERS!
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-1 #14 Desmond 2013-03-01 17:15
Waste of taxpayers money,
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+3 #15 w.c.d.people 2013-03-01 17:32
Moderator
I can believe you would publish some of the comments made on this site. Here is one:
"#5 realist 2013-03-01 14:18
at least couple of dem dead now... dat is somewhat satisfying to the mind"

Its disappointing to see you allowed some of these. Come on DemWave please bring back some decency to this Blog or do as kaieteurnews, no blog.
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+2 #16 Youth Observing 2013-03-01 17:49
Hey! Ramotar could have hired me to head this commission. All these guys did was use some circumstancial evidence to make assumptions and recommend cosmetic compensations. I believe this report is nothing but a set up to put the whole fiasco to rest. If someone gives false evidence they should be awarded nothing, not 'a lil $50,000 because we giving away money, so tek somtin and go lang yuh way. Also, we now know the value of the life of a young lindener, $3,000,000. If that were my family they would have had to compensate for monthly earnings for the duration of the persons' expected life span before retirement. $3,000,000? Come on! That's just ridiculous. The retired Jamacian Justice and his commissioners were paid around that same figure for a few weeks work. Amazing!
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+2 #17 thousand_reasons 2013-03-01 18:11
DE Professor right when he said that "GOD DON'T SLEEP" Imagine you shooting live bullets into a crowd and it wasn't your intention to kill and injure. I wouldn't like to see what the would do when it is their intention to KILL. NO wonder KD KNights is hospitalised, GOd isn't sleeping.
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-2 #18 PPPSupporter 2013-03-01 18:39
Quoting realist:
how can u reward these criminals/hooligans/useless ppl for their atrocious behaiour??

anywhos, they r drug addicts so that money will done on drugs and booze and next 3 months they gon be worse than them deh now

lmfao

Now you're a true gentleman
Life goes on after the money finish which I assume will finish in a week or two
Then the posse would protest again for te settlement was too little
My grandmother used to tell me stories that black people cook in the pot then bore hole in the same pot
No looking out for tomorrow
Peter Sam I always enjoy reading your comments
You're a fair and just man, you were raised very well
Keep speaking the truth my fellow Guyanese brother
I'm sure the Lindeners n Buxtonian are gong back to te drawing board and research the possibilities of shaking down the govt for more fete money
Beware of benschop , Grainger and the deserters to show at the Marriott for new rounds of Picketing
Bunch of F**king losers
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+3 #19 remax 2013-03-01 19:12
these policemen should be charged with murders...of course the crowd is hostile...but the policemen were never in danger.....Guyana going down the wrong road...when will the govt be held accountable.. people need to rise up...hungry belly nah full with wind
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-1 #20 ashley singh 2013-03-01 19:12
The C.O.I. achieved exactly nothing. Just a bloody waste of taxpayers money. Guyana lost, the people of Linden lost. All the instigators are hiding .
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0 #21 Ken Robertson 2013-03-01 19:40
Life is cheap in Guyana! One would think that security forces shoot over the heads of an unruly crowd to scare them. The only arms were carried by the police, including non-issue.
Circumstantial evidence is often supplied by the police and convictions are obtained. A civil suit can be mounted with success on the same basis.
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+1 #22 dezetante 2013-03-01 20:04
Quite a fair report, its a pity these peretrators are not JAILED...Wonder what Rohee will do about his MURDERING ROGUES that constantly cast a shadow on the disciplined forces
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-2 #23 Sultan 2013-03-01 21:02
The PPP should sue the organisers to replace the cost of their buuilding. They should also sue for wages that Mr Fraser klost during the time the building was inoperavble. The cOI gave a lot of money for people who were not doing anything except xcausing rioting and arson.

This is plain nonsense!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
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+1 #24 H_Ali 2013-03-01 21:03
The only problem is that the poolice did not shoot to scare they shot and killed three HUMAN BEINGS and nothing can justify what they did trying to put the blame on the opposition is a load of BS.
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0 #25 turbo 2013-03-01 21:21
i read some of you people blogs on this and stab site and find that guyanese of african decent are more dangerous to their own than the indians, only afro guyanese behave in this manner, you never want to uplift your people,you are
unhappy when you look into the mirror and see an african guyanese,peter sam you
are a confused individual and need guidance,you need to learn african history,educate yourself peter sam........
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+1 #26 Thefarmer 2013-03-01 23:15
Agree life in Guyana is cheap... Guess that's what we will ever be... Specks of dust on the lotus feet of the Lord.

May their soul rest in peace.

I jus realized one very important thong in moving up in the public sector.... Its not my money suspend it..

Hope the GOG takes these recommendations and pay up, etc. Charge interest if it's not paid in two months.
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+2 #27 Thefarmer 2013-03-01 23:21
I am Indian, I am listening to Indian music of the 1990's and I can help but think about the level of oppression Afro guuyanesr go tru daily.

I hope this time of those who think it to them selves is we time done soon ..
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+2 #28 Thefarmer 2013-03-01 23:30
Ah, I think it's okay to publish the comment... I mean u can't want bash the minister Benn for taking down calypso n den say demwaves shouldn't publish this comment.. That's a bit of double standards ... Don't u think..

Quoting w.c.d.people:
Moderator
I can believe you would publish some of the comments made on this site. Here is one:
"#5 realist 2013-03-01 14:18
at least couple of dem dead now... dat is somewhat satisfying to the mind"

Its disappointing to see you allowed some of these. Come on DemWave please bring back some decency to this Blog or do as kaieteurnews, no blog.
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0 #29 guyanese 2013-03-02 00:16
Quoting PPPSupporter:
Quoting realist:
how can u reward these criminals/hooligans/useless ppl for their atrocious behaiour??

anywhos, they r drug addicts so that money will done on drugs and booze and next 3 months they gon be worse than them deh now

lmfao

Now you're a true gentleman
Life goes on after the money finish which I assume will finish in a week or two
Then the posse would protest again for te settlement was too little
My grandmother used to tell me stories that black people cook in the pot then bore hole in the same pot
No looking out for tomorrow
Peter Sam I always enjoy reading your comments
You're a fair and just man, you were raised very well
Keep speaking the truth my fellow Guyanese brother
I'm sure the Lindeners n Buxtonian are gong back to te drawing board and research the possibilities of shaking down the govt for more fete money
Beware of benschop , Grainger and the deserters to show at the Marriott for new rounds of Picketing
Bunch of F**king losers

Or they can just join with the biggest set of thieves,the ones in the PPP.
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0 #30 Roberts 2013-03-02 12:27
Demwave.com Your head Line is wrong. No evidence prove it was the police shots. LIE! LIE!
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+2 #31 James E.Woolward 2013-03-02 12:48
At times I am either amused or alarmed to read some of the nonsense,absurd ity, and racist remarks expressed as comments. Some of these comments are not worthy of publication.
I have never read at any time that the Emmore Martyrs were described as criminals. They were fighting for o just cause. In like manner, these people at Linden were fighting for a just cause.
It was unfortunate that lives were lost, some people were injured,and property destroyed.
What should be discussed is the Report of the C.O.I. In particular the ridiculous award for the loss of lives. These three young people died and would never return to their families. Property could be replaced. What were the criteria used in arriving at those figures of $1,000,000.00 and $3,000,000.00.
People should stop making scurrilous remarks about other people and races. This is not constructive discussion.
It is nonsense and not worthy of publication.
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+1 #32 weep not for me but weep for your children 2013-03-02 21:47
well de police succeeded in scaring de crowd coz 3 persons get assassinated. well people not gon picket no more coz dem police gat murderous scare tactics.
forward march into slavery and no complaints.
yea yea we humble weself
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-1 #33 ashley singh 2013-03-03 11:01
All in all the people of linden lost. They should round up all the organizers and instigators .
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0 #34 Roberts 2013-03-03 11:50
To DEmwaves.com Where in the Investigation prove your Head Line of this Article is correct. Stop misleading the people.
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+1 #35 Roman 2013-03-03 11:54
Charge these Holligons for the distruction to Guyana....why give them money AFC you not mouthing now.
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0 #36 Roman 2013-03-03 11:55
AFC seems happy for this compensation because them a PNC too. Criminals should be charged not given TAX money.
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+1 #37 PETER SAM 2013-03-03 17:15
Quoting turbo:
i read some of you people blogs on this and stab site and find that guyanese of african decent are more dangerous to their own than the indians, only afro guyanese behave in this manner, you never want to uplift your people,you are
unhappy when you look into the mirror and see an african guyanese,peter sam you
are a confused individual and need guidance,you need to learn african history,educate yourself peter sam........


I AM NOT STUCK BECAUSE OF MY RACE OR VOID OF TRUTH. WHAT IS MORALLY CAN NEVER BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, SO SAID ABE LINCOLN.
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0 #38 Namela 2013-03-04 12:28
Note.... the three dead men were all shot in their backs which suggests that they were fleeing therefore would have posed no threat to the police,so how can the police justify firing live rounds smh ..what about the rules of engagement of the GPS?
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0 #39 w.c.d.people 2013-03-04 12:45
The farmer, Not exactly.
The comments are much different, I comments here are about a person being happy that their fellow Guyanese and protesters being killed.
My comments on the other end is about a person using his authority to influence decision on Guyanese music being played on national radio.
Two vastly different scenarios; happy to see people die VS complaint about use or abuse of authority.

Lets have constructive engagement and respect for each other as we are all Guyanese seeking betterment for Guyana.
I was thought that Tolerance, Compassion, consultation and negotiation can take us many distance in life. For we don't live for today and tomorrow only.
Quoting Thefarmer:
Ah, I think it's okay to publish the comment... I mean u can't want bash the minister Benn for taking down calypso n den say demwaves shouldn't publish this comment.. That's a bit of double standards ... Don't u think..

Quoting w.c.d.people:
Moderator
I can believe you would publish some of the comments made on this site. Here is one:
"#5 realist 2013-03-01 14:18
at least couple of dem dead now... dat is somewhat satisfying to the mind"

Its disappointing to see you allowed some of these. Come on DemWave please bring back some decency to this Blog or do as kaieteurnews, no blog.
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